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I knew someone would ask that. ;-) I decided to go test-after with this and use QuickCheck. I’m just having a bit of trouble thinking about these editing operations in terms of properties.

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Have you seen Yi?

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Why not contribute to yi instead? http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Yi

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Michael, deconstructing structured data is quite common in functional languages that don’t have side-effects, precisely because that’s really the only way to gain access to the fields you need without resorting to state monads and/or transformers. So, don’t fret.

However, if you find that a number of fields go unused, and you find that you’re tiring of always deconstructing them, you might find refactoring the structures might be a good idea. E.g., convert:

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Nicholas: What I’d really like to do is refactoring tooling for Yi or Leksah, but I have to ramp up my skills. Met someone at a conference last year who has the same interest. Still need to see whether it would be good to work on.. what’s currently done.. whether the projects have anything under way, or are interested.. what the state of HaRe is, etc.

Micheal: These are all great plans. Note also that contributing to Yi can be done to improves your skills. There are a lot of simple additions/integrations you can make especially about re-factoring.

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Just a little non tech comment VIH is the french acronym for HIV… it’s just a lttle confusing for french people like me !

Great job anyway.

Seen the Yi editor? It’s got a vim mode and an emacs mode.

Very cool work though!

I think this project is worth doing, because Yi is GPL’d, and as far as I can tell, (reading license.txt) the Vih license is MIT. (I think) Without getting into license wars, I think that using a less restrictive license is a perfectly reasonable case for a separate project.

Besides that, I couldn’t get Yi to compile on my machine…

I might contribute to this project in the future.

I want to move toward a more sensible data structure in a while but right now typing is comfortable even with all of that work going on.

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I haven’t seen pervasive use of labels like that in Haskell code I’ve looked at, so I’m wondering if my mapping of functions to data structures is odd.

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